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macOS Ventura 13.0 beta1: early feedback and findings


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As stated and shown at Applelife & InsanelyMac, works with OpenCore + AvoidRuntimeDefrag=No. Not sure about the need to add -lilubetaall boot arg.

Boot loop with Clover (r5142) for the moment on my E7270 Skylake laptop with same config as used for Big Sur and Monterey, only SMBIOS changed to MBP14,1.

 

I confirm that support for Haswell, Broadwell and Skylake iGPU is dropped, the only graphics framebuffers available in /S/L/E being KBL, CFL and ICL ones.

For AMD, all GPUs older than Polaris generation are dropped.

AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement is dropped too, something we still required on good old C2D, C2Q, 1st gen Core, Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge platforms so that could add a few nails in their coffin.

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Ventura b1 installation completed after updating Clover to r5146. But E7270 struggling to even complete 1st boot setup due to lack of graphics acceleration so I can't even finish that and reach Ventura desktop.

 

So, unless you have a Kaby Lake/HD615 laptop minimum, no point wasting your time until an eventual patch is made available...

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As suggested by @aben at IM, I experimented with KBL framebuffer settings on my Skylake/HD520 Latitude E7270. I also updated all add-on kexts to latest versions (Lily & PlugIns) and replaced good old ACPIBatteryManager + FakeSMC by their VirtualSMC equivalent.

 

This allowed me to boot Ventura b1, complete 1st boot setup and reach desktop; the laptop still freezes shortly afterwards so something's still iffy but at least I can boot and with apparent full graphics acceleration:

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E7270_Ventura_13.0.b1.jpg

 

E7270_13.0.b1_StageManager.jpg

 

E727°_i7-6600U_HD520_Ven_13.0.b1.jpg

 

E7270_SysInfo_Graphics_13.0.b1.jpg


 

I don't know about older generations but there seems to be hope for Skylake laptops.

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'working on my Clover setup and manage to significantly reduce the freezes though not entirely. Sometimes, system still freezes a few seconds after reaching desktop. But it seems to run pretty stable most of the time.

 

Graphics acceleration is acceptable at this stage though not bug free: occasional slow movements on screen and some contents leftovers after closing a window for instance. Or unrecoverable limping system of complete freeze after attempting to watch a Youtube video in Safari. But, hey, what can we expect out of a KBL framebuffer on a Skylake system?

 

Other than than, everything appears to work properly on the E7270:

  • graphics acceleration ✔️ with some defects and reduced/degraded performance
  • brightness control ✔️
  • touchscreen ✔️
  • HDMI output ✔️
  • mini-DP output ✔️
  • audio (incl. DP audio) ✔️
  • LAN ✔️
  • wireless & Bluetooth (BCM9460CS2) ✔️
  • touchPad ✔️
  • USB ports ✔️
  • sleep & wake ✔️
  • SD card reader ✔️

Whether this ends up sustainable in the long run for Skylake laptops remains to be seen but you never know... Is it usable for the time being? Clearly not.

 

Edit: Instant wake issue on sleep and HDMI output now sorted.

 

 

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@Hervé Great to hear of progress being made with Skylake Notebook, I am using opencore 0.8.1 been able to boot up into macOS Ventura beta recovery,  but get stack or freezes on 16 minutes remaining  during first install screen. What may be the problem, my Hardware is Dell Latitude E7470 with Intel Core i5 @2.40Ghz,  I know my Hardware share almost same Hardware configuration as yours. Any suggestions from you will be helpful. Thanks in advance

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If we compare the SKL framebuffer typically used on Skylake laptops with the KBL framebuffers typically used on Kaby Lake laptops, we can see how close they are in terms of memory settings and output ports definition:

 

ID: 19160000, STOLEN: 34 MB, FBMEM: 21 MB, VRAM: 1536 MB, Flags: 0x0000090F
TOTAL STOLEN: 56 MB, TOTAL CURSOR: 1 MB (1572864 bytes), MAX STOLEN: 124 MB, MAX OVERALL: 125 MB (131608576 bytes)
Model name: Intel HD Graphics SKL CRB
Camellia: CamelliaDisabled (0), Freq: 1388 Hz, FreqMax: 1388 Hz
Mobile: 1, PipeCount: 3, PortCount: 3, FBMemoryCount: 3
[0] busId: 0x00, pipe: 8, type: 0x00000002, flags: 0x00000098 - ConnectorLVDS
[1] busId: 0x05, pipe: 9, type: 0x00000400, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorDP
[2] busId: 0x04, pipe: 10, type: 0x00000400, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorDP
00000800 02000000 98000000
01050900 00040000 87010000
02040A00 00040000 87010000

 

KBL framebuffer 0x59160000:

ID: 59160000, STOLEN: 34 MB, FBMEM: 0 bytes, VRAM: 1536 MB, Flags: 0x00000B0B
TOTAL STOLEN: 35 MB, TOTAL CURSOR: 1 MB (1572864 bytes), MAX STOLEN: 103 MB, MAX OVERALL: 104 MB (109588480 bytes)
Model name: Intel HD Graphics KBL CRB
Camellia: CamelliaDisabled (0), Freq: 1388 Hz, FreqMax: 1388 Hz
Mobile: 1, PipeCount: 3, PortCount: 3, FBMemoryCount: 3
[0] busId: 0x00, pipe: 8, type: 0x00000002, flags: 0x00000098 - ConnectorLVDS
[1] busId: 0x05, pipe: 9, type: 0x00000400, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorDP
[2] busId: 0x04, pipe: 10, type: 0x00000800, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorHDMI
00000800 02000000 98000000
01050900 00040000 87010000
02040A00 00080000 87010000

 

KBL framebuffer 0x591B0000:

ID: 591B0000, STOLEN: 38 MB, FBMEM: 21 MB, VRAM: 1536 MB, Flags: 0x0000130B
TOTAL STOLEN: 39 MB, TOTAL CURSOR: 1 MB (1572864 bytes), MAX STOLEN: 136 MB, MAX OVERALL: 137 MB (144191488 bytes)
Model name: Intel HD Graphics KBL CRB
Camellia: CamelliaDisabled (0), Freq: 1388 Hz, FreqMax: 1388 Hz
Mobile: 1, PipeCount: 3, PortCount: 3, FBMemoryCount: 3
[0] busId: 0x00, pipe: 8, type: 0x00000002, flags: 0x00000098 - ConnectorLVDS
[2] busId: 0x04, pipe: 10, type: 0x00000800, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorHDMI
[3] busId: 0x06, pipe: 10, type: 0x00000400, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorDP
00000800 02000000 98000000
02040A00 00080000 87010000
03060A00 00040000 87010000

 

  • With KBL 0x59160000, only the FBMEM settings (21MB vs. 0MB) + 3rd port type (DP vs. HDMI) differ and, if need be, we can easily inject that through properties injection in the bootloader's config.
  • With KBL 0x591B0000, only the external output ports definition (HDMI + DP) differ and, if need be, we can easily inject that through properties injection in the bootloader's config.

 

I've also experimented with the SKL injector posted by PMHeart here at IM; the E7270 certainly appears to run Ventura much more stable but graphics defects are, imo, worse, especially in Safari. On the other hand, it's Ok with Chrome so I would recommend using that for the time being.

 

Revised Clover pack #2 posted above.

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This revised version of Clover r5146 restores full stability in Ventura beta1 with AvoidRuntimeDefrag quirk set (failing that systems boot but rapidly freeze). The OpenRuntime Clover module was fixed.

Thanks to developper @Jief_Machak for the updated build.

Clover_r5146beta-48be65956.pkg.zip

 

This follows findings posted at InsanelyMac stating that older version such as r5137 could boot Ventura without subsequent freeze.

 

Revised pack #3 posted above accordingly.

 

Edit: Fixed lack of HDMI output by changing KBL framebuffer 0x591B0000 to 0x59160000 which has suitable output ports definition. Revised pack #4 posted above accordingly.

 

Not good for HDMI without connector's patching:

ID: 591B0000, STOLEN: 38 MB, FBMEM: 21 MB, VRAM: 1536 MB, Flags: 0x0000130B
TOTAL STOLEN: 39 MB, TOTAL CURSOR: 1 MB (1572864 bytes), MAX STOLEN: 136 MB, MAX OVERALL: 137 MB (144191488 bytes)
Model name: Intel HD Graphics KBL CRB
Camellia: CamelliaDisabled (0), Freq: 1388 Hz, FreqMax: 1388 Hz
Mobile: 1, PipeCount: 3, PortCount: 3, FBMemoryCount: 3
[0] busId: 0x00, pipe: 8, type: 0x00000002, flags: 0x00000098 - ConnectorLVDS
[2] busId: 0x04, pipe: 10, type: 0x00000800, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorHDMI
[3] busId: 0x06, pipe: 10, type: 0x00000400, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorDP
00000800 02000000 98000000
02040A00 00080000 87010000     -> Not good for HDMI output. Needs patching to 01050900 [00080000 87010000].
03060A00 00040000 87010000     -> Ok for DP, incl audio.

 

Natively good for HDMI:

ID: 59160000, STOLEN: 34 MB, FBMEM: 0 bytes, VRAM: 1536 MB, Flags: 0x00000B0B
TOTAL STOLEN: 35 MB, TOTAL CURSOR: 1 MB (1572864 bytes), MAX STOLEN: 103 MB, MAX OVERALL: 104 MB (109588480 bytes)
Model name: Intel HD Graphics KBL CRB
Camellia: CamelliaDisabled (0), Freq: 1388 Hz, FreqMax: 1388 Hz
Mobile: 1, PipeCount: 3, PortCount: 3, FBMemoryCount: 3
[0] busId: 0x00, pipe: 8, type: 0x00000002, flags: 0x00000098 - ConnectorLVDS
[1] busId: 0x05, pipe: 9, type: 0x00000400, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorDP
[2] busId: 0x04, pipe: 10, type: 0x00000800, flags: 0x00000187 - ConnectorHDMI
00000800 02000000 98000000
01050900 00040000 87010000     -> 0105 connector good for HDMI. Type 00080000 required for HDMI audio.
02040A00 00080000 87010000     -> Ok for DP, incl. audio.

 

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